When will people learn , that as soon as religion comes into discussions on this forum and threads , the tread gets "shut down " thanks "JOE PA " keep religion out of discussions on this forum. :angry:
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When will people learn , that as soon as religion comes into discussions on this forum and threads , the tread gets "shut down " thanks "JOE PA " keep religion out of discussions on this forum. :angry:
Well everybody keeps asking what can be done to stop such killing - I offer a way that will surely work but for the most part it is rejected - leaving out religion means that you are leaving out the thing that motivates the majority of people in this world - so how can you ever find a solution if you limit the discussion and leave out the most important thing - its too bad that people can't have a discussion without going out of bounds -Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
That's why things are the way they are - this applies to all kind of issues - if you limit what you can talk about for whatever reason (most likely political correctness) how do you expect to solve any problem - let me just give you one example of many - the problems that exist in the inner cities and why it is never solved - you can't come out and state what the real problem is because people will jump all over you for telling the truth - so things never change and problems never solved - one thing you got to admit - bring in religion and politics does bring up the ratings -
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Originally Posted by jaycee
Not everyone is a "believer" and political correctness rules the leftist,Liberal media world. This thread will be no different. IBTL.
Religion has never stopped the killing, it has increased it though, take a look in the history books and not just the Bible, world history and you will see how religion was and is used as a brainwashing tool to build up armies to kill in the name of God. What God you ask? Well, based on the big 3 religions, they are the same God, the God of Abraham, the God of the Jews, the Christians and the Muslims.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
If you tell them all to follow their God they would be following the same God, so how if they follow the same God could they be fighting each other in the name of God??? Hmm?
Mean while back at the ranch - leaves are starting to fall - apples being picked and apple sauce being made - archery season is in - boat gonna be winterized - camper gonna be winterized - grandsons playing high school football - and best of all - its almost quiet on the southern front -
Keep it that way , and keep religion out of your posts thank you very much!:), this will not then lead to having threads closed!Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
Joepa , I have nothing against you and religion, please don't get me wrong, I just hate to see religion brought into the picture on an open forum as this a lot of times leads to animosity and too many arguments are started with no reasonable or justifiable outcome .
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Originally Posted by jaycee
Yep, can't bring religion into it, there are already fiction about religion and God in this thread ... heck it seems anymore you can't bring not even history and facts sometimes too, so many prefer to believe fiction and let CBC, the Star and CNN do their thinking for them anymore. The culture and the media in Canada and seems more comfortable with lies or their agenda, in the US we have Columbus becoming the next General Lee to be blamed for the problems, ANTIFA (looking like National Socialist Germany 1930's), race based groups advocating violence against police so many problems to talk about but no real attempt to make changes.
Looking in the news today talking about issues, in Canada we put $10,000,000,000 into a race based program that won't even let them own/sell/buy the land they are on and seems content to talk about their social and economic problems without actually making a real change or requiring them to be responsible for that money or themselves. How long before angry troubled/wasted individuals cause problems? We have huge economic programs killed by a divisive ideologue costing thousands of jobs that can't even remember the province that could provide oil to the east instead of buying from a country bombing civilians in the country next door and run by dictators...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32677260
There are more and more of those anymore dedicated to divisiveness and antagonism but completely unwilling to bend or consider others or even consider if what they are saying is true sadly.
As for Las Vegas, anyone heard anything about the note?
ISIS seems to be doubling down on claims about him.... nothing that seems true there ... so far.
The girlfriend just talks about him being a nice guy and I haven't heard more there either...
The anti-firearm crowd is the only one saying anything and they seem like they aren't interested in the realities, just their agenda, heck everyone on the one shooting news outlet was laughing at CNN's explanation of a bump stock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsMk9ZGseUY
for an explanation of the stock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6oaRAgdslE
Then there is the conversation on silencers by the left .... OH did you know Canadian Tire sells suppressors :scream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t_pcWPdSDs
So much for freedom of speech. First time I have ever agreed with JoePa. Go figure.
While the Las Vegas shooting is very tragic, consider what happens in Chicago just in one month ;
Chicago totals:
September 2016: 69 killed, 301 wounded.
September 2015: 63 killed, 303 wounded.
September 2014: 46 killed, 211 wounded.
And now for this year to date ;
October 3, 2017 Chicago Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 499
Shot & Wounded: 2403
Total Shot: 2902
Total Homicides: 536
More interesting facts;
Overall, the U.S. suicide rate is about the same as Great Britain, Canada, Denmark, Switzerland, and Iceland, and well below France and Russia. Although armchair critics like to cite the approximate 33,000 deaths from guns in the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released these figures for 2014, the most recent year for which complete data on firearms-related deaths and injuries are available. In 2014, 21,386 firearm deaths were suicides.
If you believe in the value of human life, about 65% of the problem associated with guns is eliminated if we could simply convince people not to kill themselves. It would save some 21,000 lives every year.