An interesting examination of how things were in the past - maybe he Union Jack gotta go - what say you - http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/hi...237793261.html
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An interesting examination of how things were in the past - maybe he Union Jack gotta go - what say you - http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/hi...237793261.html
It wasn't just the Irish!
"Between one-half and two-thirds of white immigrants to the American colonies between the 1630s and American Revolution had come under indentures.[2]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servant
Very common throughout the world ! Even Natives in this country took slaves from other tribes .
It wasn't just in the colonies either. My ancestors worked (slaved) in the coal mines in England. From family histories they were treated much like slaves.
If they were defeated in war the defeated army's flags would be taken down to be replaced by the victors, that is what should have happened in the southern states.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
Bingo!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Pete - You bring up an interesting thought - I was born and raised in a coal mining town - two of my uncles died in the mines in separate cave ins - in earlier times people lived in small company owned houses (some are still around in certain towns) - they bought their food in company owned stores and were completely controlled by the company - it wasn't until the union got started did things get a little better - that was after a long drawn out fight - I remember when I was a kid my dad would go to work with a group of guys carrying baseball bats because the company hired others to break any attempt to organize -
I read a number of posts on another forum from southerners - to them the battle flag has nothing to do with slavery today - it is a symbol of southern history and pride - many of them believe that the real reason the war was fought was because of states rights - not slavery - and a lot of blacks even fought under that flag - lets face it 95% of the southerners that fought and died in that war didn't have slaves and the thought that you can get so many to fight for the benefit of a few slave owners is hard to swallow - remember when you read history written by the victors it is distorted
There isn't a flag flying today that doesn't have a dark history attached to it - I say - get over it and let them fly -
Well fortunately it's been removed and the ones that still wanted to keep it up will have to get over it. So get over it.
Oh - you mean like the fleur-de-lis in Quebec and the blue Scottish flag?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Quebec yes , Scotland no it is a country.Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche